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  BRAND NEW UNLOCKED BLACKBERRY BOLD 9700 $250, SIDEKICK LX 2009 $250
Posted by: saler - 02-02-2010 02:32 PM - Replies (1)

Welcome to mobile store
Our goal is to provide the highest level of quality electronics products at
the lowest cost on the Internet. We offer high quality products at very
reasonable. In any business, and customer satisfaction is both a resource
and source of major concern. our customer's satisfaction is repeated only
way to get repeat business. This is why our customer service is handled by
qualified staff and highly trained. We would like to make your one stop shop
for all your needs.


Why buy from the United States?
* Your privacy is guaranteed
* Our prices are second to none
* Insurance Secured Transactions
* We ship Monday through Saturday.
* Free shipping on qualified orders
* We offer a reasonable discount on bulk purchase
* We ship the same day after confirmation of payment.
* We offer a 30 day return policy and a 100% money back guarantee.

We have prices on a regular basis to verify all the world's leading Web
sites in the competition to ensure you get the low prices on all our goods.
If you found the best price for the item at another store, before the
system, contact us at e-mail: williamsoliver.oliver@gmail.com to go to match
the price.


It should be for all queries relating to the purchase referred to
williamsoliver.oliver@gmail.com

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Stored list items:

Palm Pre ............$ 190
Palm Treo Pro .......$ 230
Palm Centro .........$ 200

Sidekick:
T-Mobile Sidekick LX 2009 ....$ 250
T-Mobile Sidekick Slide ......$ 180
T-Mobile Sidekick LX .........$ 150
T-Mobile Sidekick 3 ..........$ 135
T-Mobile Wing ................$ 180
T-Mobile Sidekick GSM 2008 ... $ 160
T-Mobile G2 touch ............$ 300

Only the release of the goods
Apple iPhone 3Gs 16GB ......$ 250
Apple iPhone 3G in the third-generation 32GB .....$ 280
Apple iPhone 4GB ...........$ 120
Apple iPhone 2G 8GB ........$ 170
Apple iPhone third-generation 3G 4GB ........$ 165
Apple iPhone 8GB ...........$ 180
Apple iPhone 16GB ..........$ 200
Apple iPhone 3G 8GB ........$ 195
Apple iPhone 3G 16GB .......$ 220
Apple iphone 3Gs 32GB......$250
Apple iPhone 3G 16GB .......$ 220

BlackBerry Curve 8520 ............ $ 210
BlackBerry 9630 tour ............. $ 190
BlackBerry Curve 8900 ............ $ 250
BlackBerry Storm 9500 ............ $ 300
BlackBerry Storm 9530 ............ $ 330
Blackberry storm 2 9550 ...........$350
BlackBerry Pearl Flip 8220 ....... $ 130
BlackBerry Bold 9000 ............. $ 250
BlackBerry 8830 World Edition .... $ 150
BlackBerry Curve 8330 (right )..... $ 145

HTC Touch2 ....................$ 400
HTC Hero ......................$ 300
HTC ozone .....................$ 320
HTC Snap ......................$ 280
HTC G1 Google Phone ...........$ 300
Rape Magic Google2 G2 Android .. $ 340
HTC Touch Pro2 ................$ 260
HTC Touch Diamond2 ............$ 210
HTC Dream .....................$ 200
HTC Touch Cruise 09 ...........$ 300
HTC Max 4G ....................$ 450
HTC Touch [HD ..................$ 310
HTC Touch 3G ..................$ 235
HTC Touch Viva ................$ 199
HTC S740 ......................$$ 270
HTC Touch Pro .................$ 200
Your World .............$ 195
HTC Touch Cruise ..............$ 250
HTC P3470 .....................$ 185

EMAIL:WILLIAMSOLIVER.OLIVER@GMAIL.COM
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Nokia 8800 gold trade ....................$ 300
Nokia N97 ...............................$ 300
Nokia N85 ...............................$ 215
Nokia N96 16GB ..........................$ 320
Nokia N78 ...............................$ 200
Nokia N81 8GB ...........................$ 210
Nokia N77 ...............................$ 190
Nokia N86 8MP ...........................$ 250
Nokia N900 ..............................$350
Nokia N97 Mini ..........................$ 250
Nokia 8800 ................$400
Nokia 5800 navigation Edition ...........$ 250
Nokia 5800 XpressMusic ..................$ 235
Nokia 6760 slide ........................$ 260
Nokia 6790 storm ........................$ 230
Nokia 6710 Navigator ....................$ 300
Nokia mural .............................$ 400
Nokia 3720 classic ......................$ 180
Nokia 5530 XpressMusic ..................$ 200
Nokia 3208c .............................$ 230
Nokia X6 ................................$ 270
Nokia X3 ................................$ 245
Nokia 5230 ..............................$ 205
Nokia 8800 Carbon Arte ..................$ 240
Nokia 8800 Sirocco ......................$ 280
Nokia E63 ...............................$ 205
Nokia E71 ...............................$ 280
Nokia E55 ...............................$ 200
Nokia E75 ...............................$ 320
Nokia E90 ...............................$ 350
Nokia E52 ...............................$ 245
Nokia E72 ...............................$ 300

Sony Ericsson:
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2 .................$ 360
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 .................$ 350
Sony Ericsson Jalou D & G edition .........$ 320
Sony Ericsson Jalou .....................$ 290
Sony Ericsson T715 ......................$ 200
Sony Ericsson C901 GreenHeart ...........$ 205
Sony Ericsson Naite .....................$ 220
Sony Ericsson Satio (Idou )..............$ 350
Sony Ericsson Jari ......................$ 200
Sony Ericsson Ainu ......................$ 330
Sony Ericsson K850 ......................$ 195
Sony Ericsson P1 ........................$ 230
Sony Ericsson C903 ......................$ 260
Sony Ericsson W205 ......................$ 130
Sony Ericsson C901 ......................$ 220
Sony Ericsson C905 ......................$ 320
Sony Ericsson W902 ......................$ 240
Sony Ericsson C902 ......................$ 230


Imate:
I-mate 810 - F ............................$ 280
I-mate Ultimate 8502 ....................$ 200
I-mate Jama 201 .........................$ 230
I-mate JAQ4 .............................$ 270
I-mate Ultimate 6150 ....................$ 300
I-mate Ultimate 5150 ....................$ 220
I-mate Ultimate 7150 ....................$ 310
I-mate Ultimate 9502 ....................$ 350

EMAIL:WILLIAMSOLIVER.OLIVER@GMAIL.COM
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Samsung:
Samsung Appear ......................$ 300
Samsung i770 Saga .......................$ 400

Samsung S8000 Jet .......................$ 400
Samsung M8910 Pixon12 ...................$ 450
Samsung S5230 Star ......................$ 170
Samsung S5600 Preston ...................$ 200
Samsung A257 magnet .....................$ 130
Samsung i8910 security [HD ]..................$ 320
Samsung S8300 UltraTOUCH ................$ 300
Samsung A867 Eternity ...................$ 210
Samsung M8800 Pixon .....................$ 280
Samsung i8510 INNOV8 ....................$ 300
Samsung i900 ......................$ 240 security
Samsung F490 ............................$ 220
Samsung S3650 .....................$ 250 Corby
Samsung S9110 ...........................$ 500
Samsung A887 keeled ...................$ 260
Samsung B7610 OmniaPRO ..................$ 340
Samsung i637 Jack .......................$ 200
Samsung B7300 OmniaLITE .................$ 300
Samsung T749 discrimination ..................$ 270


Eten V900 glofiish ......................$ 400
Eten X900 glofiish ......................$ 320
Eten X610 glofiish ......................$ 200
Eten DX900 glofiish .....................$ 210
Eten M750 glofiish ......................$ 250
Eten M810 glofiish ......................$ 280
Eten M800 glofiish ......................$ 260
Eten X650 glofiish ......................$ 270
Eten X800 glofiish ......................$ 300

Return policy
* You can purchase return within 30 days from the date of shipment for
refund or replacement,
if it meets any of the following criteria:
- We sent you the wrong address.
, And the product that he had physically.
* Returns all the original products and must include packing materials,
manuals, and accessories, as you receive them.
Any damage to the original packaging may lead to the imposition of
additional fees.
* Please obtain a RMA (Return Merchandize Authorization) number before
sending back your return product.
Products returned without a valid RMA # will not be accepted. For RMA #,
please send an e-mail williamsoliver.oliver@gmail.com

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  FOR SALE: Sony - 26" LCD TV - Widescreen..............650usd
Posted by: i-phonesstoreltd - 11-30-2009 10:31 AM - Replies (1)

Name & Registered Office:
ELECTRONICS COMPUTERS AND SYSTEMS LIMITED
1 WOODLANDS
WELSHWOOD PARK
COLCHESTER
ESSEX
CO4 3JA
Company No. 02751654
TEL....+447045737939 / +447045798901
E-Mail Us today at : i-phonessalesltd@hotmail.com

We deal in all kinds of Mobile Phones ranging from … All various models of BlackBerry handphones, Nokia N96 Smartphone 16GB, Sony Ericsson X1 Xperia, Apple iPhones 3G S phone, Samsung i900 OMNIA 16GB.
We also have in stock various Models of Plasma Tv's,Laptops,Digital Camera and many more.
We ship and deliver fast to your doorstep within 48 hours of purchase via reliable courier companies FedEx/DHL/UPS after payment confirmation upon which we issue you TRACKING NUMBER/AIRWAY BILL which enable you to track/trace your goods on transit before delivery.

They are all brand new with the complete accessories in original factory sealed box 100% original and comes with 12 months international warranty. .
( Store Promotional Sales Offer:- BUY 3 GET 1 FREE OR
BUY 5 GET 2 FREE)

Below are some of the products we have in stock:

Apple iPhone 3G S 32GB........$365USD
Apple iphone 3G 16GB..........$270USD
Apple Iphone 3G 8GB.......... $250USD
Nokia N97 32GB................$400USD
Nokia N96 16GB................$260USD
Nokia X6 32GB.................$255USD
Nokia 8800 Diamond Arte.......$800USD
Nokia E90 ....................$280USD
Nokia N95 8GB.................$230USD
Nokia 8800 Sirocco Gold.......$330USD
Nokia 8800 Carbon Arte........$305USD
Nokia 8800 Sirocco Gold.......$400usd
Nokia 8800 Diamond Arte.......$850usd
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Samsung Omnia i900 16GB.......$260USD
Blackberry Bold 9000..........$230USD
Blackberry Storm 9500.........$240USD
LG KM900 Arena................$350USD
LG KF900 Prada ii.............$310USD
LG KC910 Renoir...............$290USD
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Sony Ericsson Aino...............$270USD
sony ericsson xperia x1..........$300usd
sony ericsson idou...............$330usd
blackberry storm 9530............$300usd
blackberry storm 9500............$300usd
blackberry bold 9000.............$300usd
HTC P3700 TOUCH DIAMOND..........$305usd
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Blackberry Storm at $300usd
Blackberry Bold 9000 at $270USD
Blackberry Curve 8320 at $200USD
Blackberry 8830 $240USD
Blackberry Storm 9500 Touch Screen at $290USD
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UMPC's:
Samsung Q1 Ultra Premium UMPC......................$465USD
Samsung Q1EX 71G............................................$319USD
Samsung Q1U ELXP............................................$435USD
Sony VAIO UX ...................................................$465USD
Samsung Q1U SSDXP.........................................$435USD
Panasonic Toughbook U1...................................$768USD
OQO Model 02.....................................................$530USD
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UBiQUiO:
UBiQUiO 501 cost 270usd
UBiQUiO 503G cost 290usd
UBiQUiO 701 Ultra Mobile PC cost 300usd
UBiQUiO 702 Ultra Mobile PC cost 350usd
UBiQUiO 711 Ultra Mobile PC cost 350usd
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Sony Ericsson Aino...............$270USD
sony ericsson xperia x1..........$300usd
sony ericsson idou...............$330usd
blackberry storm 9530............$300usd
blackberry storm 9500............$300usd
blackberry bold 9000.............$300usd
HTC P3700 TOUCH DIAMOND..........$305usd
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LAPTOPS:-
IBM
Lenovo ThinkPad T60p (2623D8U) PC Notebook...............500USD
Lenovo ThinkPad® T43 (1875DMU) PC Notebook................400USD
Lenovo Thinkpad T60 (1953D9U) PC Notebook.................450USD
Lenovo 3000 N100 (0689A6U) PC Notebook...................400USD
Lenovo ThinkPad Z61m (945038U) PC Notebook...............450USD
Lenovo ThinkPad R60e (06573AU) PC Notebook...............350USD
Lenovo ThinkPad® T60p (8744C9U) PC Notebook..............600USD
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APPLE LAPTOP
Apple MacBook (MA700LL/A) Mac Notebook....................400USD
Apple MacBook Pro (MA611LL/A) Notebook...................500USD
Apple MacBook (MA254LL/A) Mac Notebook...................350USD
Apple iBook G3 (M7698LL/A) Mac Notebook..................500USD
Apple MacBook Pro (MA609LL/A) Notebook..................45 0USD
Apple MacBook Pro (MA600LLA) Notebook....................400USD
Apple MacBook Pro (MA610LL/A) Notebook...................500USD
Apple Macbook Pro (885909119400) Notebook..................500USD
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SONY VAIO P4 LAPTOP:-
Sony VAIO® PCG-GRT100 (PCG-GRT10012) PC Notebook.........300USD
Sony VAIO® PCG-GRT100P (PCG-GRT100P38) PC Notebook....400USD
Sony VAIO® PCG-GRT100P (PCG-GRT100P56) PC Notebook.....450USD
Sony VAIO® PCG-GRT100P (PCG-GRT100P44) PC Notebook.....380USD
Sony VAIO® PCG-GRT100P (PCG-GRT100P17) PC Notebook......300USD
Sony VAIO® PCG-V505BCP (PCG-V505BCP11) PC Notebook.......400USD
Sony VAIO® PCG-GRT100K (PCG-GRT100K23) PC Notebook......440USD
Dell XPS M1710 PC Notebook.........................500USD
Dell XPS M2010 PC Notebook.....................550USD
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HP LAPTOP:-
Hewlett Packard Pavilion dv9260us PCNotebook......................600USD
Hewlett Packard Pavilion dv8140us (EP407UA) PCNotebook.............550USD
Hewlett Packard Pavilion dv6265us PC Notebook.......................500USD
Hewlett Packard Compaq Presario V6210US (RP203UA#ABA) PCNotebook.....400USD
Hewlett Packard Pavilion zd8230us PC Notebook........................................530USD
Hewlett Packard Pavilion zd8205us PC Notebook...........500USD
Hewlett Packard Pavilion dv4170us (EC315UA) PC Notebook.....400USD
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TOSHIBA P4 LAPTOP:-
Toshiba Satellite® A75-S211 PCNotebook...................580USD
Toshiba Satellite® A75-S229 PCNotebook...................600USD
Toshiba Satellite A75-S213 PCNotebook.......................650USD
Toshiba Satelite 5205-S50520PC Notebook....................620USD
Toshiba Satellite P35-S605 PCNotebook.......................620USD
Toshiba Satellite A25-S307 PCNotebook.......................550USD
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ACER FERRARI P4 LAPTOP:-
Acer Ferrari 5005WLMi PC Notebook......................450USD
Acer Ferrari 4005WLMi PC Notebook.......................370USD
Acer Ferrari 3400LMi PC Notebook............................320USD
Acer Ferrari 1004WTMi PC Notebook........................300USD
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ASSUS LAPTOP:-
ASUS G2P (90NJVA823211141L100T) PC Notebook...............480USD
ASUS G1 (90NLAA1231211CAL400T) PC Notebook.................520USD
ASUS W2Pb (90NHNA213153241L400T) PC Notebook...............550USD
ASUS A8Js (A8JS-4S024P) PC Notebook.......................400USD
ASUS VX1-5E004P (ASUNBVX15E003PDR) PC Notebook.............600USD
ASUS W7J (90NHQA4235F3251L700T) PC Notebook..............400USD
ASUS G2P (G2P-7R009C) PC Notebook.........................450USD
ASUS VX1-5E004P (ASUNBVX15E004PDR) PC Notebook............600USD
ASUS S6F (S6F3013P) PC Notebook............................600USD
ASUS V1Jp (90NGGA131193321L200T) PC Notebook...............520USD
==================================================================
LCD TV's:
Samsung - 46" LCD TV - Widescreen...........500usd
Sharp LC - 52" LCD TV - Widescreen..........600usd
Toshiba - 42" LCD TV - Widescreen...........300usd
LG - 42" LCD TV - Widescreen................400usd
Sony - 46" LCD TV...........................600usd
Samsung - 46" LCD TV - Widescreen...........650usd
Sharp LC - 52" LCD TV - Widescree...........650usd
Samsung - 40" LCD TV - Widescreen...........650usd
Sharp LC - 46" LCD TV - Widescreen..........650usd
Sony - 46" LCD TV - Widescreen..............650usd
Samsung - 52" LCD TV - Widescreen...........650usd
Sony - 26" LCD TV - Widescreen..............650usd
Samsung - 46" LCD TV - Widescreen...........650usd
LG - 47" LCD TV - Widescreen................550usd
Panasonic TC - 37" LCD TV...................550usd

NOTE: These phones is 100% UNLOCKED and can be used with any SIM card. No activation required (check carrier frequency requirements) Insert Your SIM CARD and start using the phone.
Shipping:
1.Express Shipping by UPS,DHL,FedEx
Australia: 2 - 3 working days
United Kingdom: 2 - 3 working days
Rest of Europe: 2- 3 working days
United States: 2- 3 working days
Please provide your contact no. for Express use.
2. We ship the package within 24 hours after
the payment.

RETURN POLICY:
1. Please notify us within 14 days (according to the posting date).
2. Please complete the RMA form for any return items.
3. Return items MUST have all ORIGINAL packaging and accessories.
4. Return postage and insurance charge is non-refundable for return items.
5. Returne/exhange shipment of quality, we will supply free after
service
Maintenance to quality problem goods(refund or exchange new
shipment). If returned goods isn't quality problem but caused by
buyer mis-judgement, 15% of amount for refund (include freight and
insurance costs) or freight fee will be charged.
Please contact us for more information and purchase inquiries.

To place an order with us,kindly get back to us with the Information below:

-FULL NAMESS??
-ADDRESS??
-CITY??
-POSTAL CODE??
-PHONE NUMBER??
-PRODUCTS NEEDED??
-UNITS NEEDED??

Thanks as we await your patronage.
Name & Registered Office:
ELECTRONICS COMPUTERS AND SYSTEMS LIMITED
1 WOODLANDS
WELSHWOOD PARK
COLCHESTER
ESSEX
CO4 3JA
Company No. 02751654
TEL....+447045737939 / +447045798901
E-Mail Us today at : i-phonessalesltd@hotmail.com
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  Congress set to brush Delhi
Posted by: ls2009 - 05-16-2009 07:39 AM - No Replies

Congress today appeared to be set for a clean sweep in Delhi with latest trends showing that its candidates were ahead in all the
seven Lok Sabha constituencies.

Union minister Kapil Sibal was leading by 47,152 votes over his nearest BJP rival Vijender Gupta in Chandni Chowk constituency from where he was elected last time.

Another Union minister Ajay Maken was ahead of his nearest BJP rival Vijay Goel by 8,013 votes in New Delhi seat.

Chief minister Sheila Dikshit's son Sandeep, who is contesting from East Delhi, had a comfortable lead over his nearest BJP rival ace cricketer Chetan Chouhan by 28,532 votes.

Sitting MLA Mahabal Mishra is ahead of Delhi Leader of Opposition Jagdish Mukhi by 33,039 votes in West Delhi seat, which is considered a BJP stronghold.

DPCC chief J P Aggarwal, who replaced senior Congress leader Jagdish Tytler from North-East Delhi seat after his candidature became a controversy, was leading over his BJP rival B L Sharma by 29,537 votes.

Interestingly, in North-East seat, Haji Dilshad Ali, the BSP candidate who withdrew from the race in favour of Congress two days ahead of the polling, has polled 8,862 votes.

In South Delhi, Ramesh Kumar, who replaced his brother and Congress leader Sajjan Kumar, is leading against his BJP's Ramesh Bidhuri by 9,117 votes.

Sitting Congress MP Krishna Tirath is also leading in North-West Delhi seat over her nearest BJP rival by 4,346 votes.
for more info:http://www.indyalive.com

 

  Welcome to the new letpoliticstalk.com
Posted by: Per - 01-21-2009 10:07 AM - Replies (4)

Hi all forum members,

Let politics talk will go through some changes in the near future, but overall it will look the same. The main goal right now is to get more people to visit this great forum, and I have a strategy for this (hint seo). I see alot of potential in Let politics talk and that's why I want to bring it to new heights.

Feel free to drop a comment if you have any questions.

 

  New Owners
Posted by: matt - 01-15-2009 09:56 PM - Replies (1)
0

Hi all,

Let Politics Talk has now been sold to a owner who can take it to the next dimension. I am sorry over the past year or so I put such little into it. I didn't have the time but I couldn't see this place die.

The current owner wants to bring this place to new heights! I wish you well and our new owners well.

Thank you,
Matthew

 

  Future Energy Sources
Posted by: philbell - 11-15-2008 12:29 AM - Replies (5)

[/u]There has to be a decision on future energy sources made soon before it is too late, but no matter what is suggested the bloody green brigade campaigns against it!! So what the hell can be done?

Nuclear Power is a no no to them.

Coal/Gas power stations pump out too much co2 (fossil fuels are running out anyway) so they are out of the question as a long term fix.

Wind power, which the green brigade once pushed as an answer, are now not the answer as they cause 'blots on the landscape' and noise pollution to those close by. The offshore windfarms seem to cause even more outrage to peoples as their view is ruined etc etc.

Wave power is opposed as it causes other environmental issues!!

Where the hell do they expect the power to come from? I am still trying to perfect my perpetual motion generator but until this is finished I can't see any other viable option other than one of the above.

I live in an area where all of the above affect me personally to a point.

I work in a unique office that looks out over the Irish Sea right on to a large windfarm. Does it spoil my view? No not really, instead of seeing nothing but water and clouds there are little tiny windmills on the horizon. Breaks up the monotony of nothingness to be honest!! On the hills around my area there are wind farms, they do look out of place at first but then you get used to them and not notice them, at night they lurk out of the gloom and remind me of Triffids (for some strange reason) and if you are right up close to one they are noisy. The noise is no more than a big oak tree would make in the wind with the wind rustling through its leaves though, yet they don't want all the trees felled!! Maybe paint them (the windmills not the trees) a colour that will blend in rather than white, but other than that there is no problem.

Tidal power has been a local ambition by some. Build a barrage across an estury that harnesses power 24/7simply by the movement of the moon. How green is that? Yet this might cause a problem for wildlife!! It is not like a dam blocking off all of the water it is simply like a series of underwater windmills using the moving tide instead of the wind, out of sight and all that!! But oh no that is not good enough either, a cockle mioght get injured, despite the fact that if it doesnt the Chinese will just bag it up to sell to us for 10 times they were paid to collect it.

The oil/gas/coal option is out of the question as this nation does not have enough to support itself and due to the co2 problems that causes.

Nuclear power is not wanted by most people in their back yards but I think is accepted by many now as the solution for the moment. Obviously the green brigade won't have this either but I live within 40 miles of Sellafield, which although doesnt have a power station (I don't think) processes all the waste from all of the others and is more of a risk than the power stations themselves. Since the accident at Windscale (Sellafield)in the 50's there have been no major problems in the UK with Nuclear power.

What do people think on this matter? What should the answer be? All I know is that I am sat in a freezing cold house that 2 years ago was toasty hot. I simply cannot afford to heat it now and want an affordable solution that will get me and my kids warm again in the winter.

 

  US bailout
Posted by: philbell - 09-30-2008 11:04 PM - Replies (1)

What do you think of the failed US bailout? Should it have gone through or not? One side listened to the voters and the other listened to the Bankers.

I can understand both arguments, and I am no expert in any area here, but surely if things continue without the bailout then the markets will crash, hence will pensions and housing and make things worse.

I have been asking for years why people are stupid enough to pay so much for houses and why banks let them. It has been so obvious that the market was going to hit a point where it would all fall through for the last 4 years, yet people were stupid enough to pay the prices asked and banks were even stupider to let them borrow money that was alwaysys going to end in negative equity!!!

WHY??

 

  What is goging on?!?
Posted by: philbell - 09-29-2008 11:43 PM - Replies (1)

How have banks and bankers gone to the wall so quickly? For years upon years they have been making billions, yet in a few months they are going bust!! What happened to all of the profits? I am guessing that they have been drained off by the bosses and shareholders that have been reaping the rewards.

So if for all these years they are rewarded by doing such a fantastic job, how come they are not liable for the failures?? Surely the fat cat salaries they have taken should be paid back. After all it is their actions that got them the bonuses and hence it is a 2 way street and surely they should be made liable for their faults. It is the same for all of the top company CEO's. They have to take the rough with the smooth.

Ok we are in a global mess but these people got us there and should pay the biggest price. I am all for these government bailouts if they really will get the economy stabilised, BUT the people that are responsible, the heads of the banks, companies etc that have made millions should be personally liable and be forced to pay back the 'earnings' and 'bonuses' they have made by bringing their companies to the wall in the long run.

The ENRON and other people were prosecuted in the end, I think there are a huge amount of people that have created this world situation through their own greed, have profitted through it and should now pay the price. They have lived the high life and the rest of us are now paying, they should be the ones made to suffer in destitution, not me and you. Strip them of ALL their assets and put them back in to the economy, do not send them to jail and make that their punishment as they will cost us even more to keep them. Make them pay back for the rest of their lives!! Then maybe the next generation will be that bit more careful and think twice about taking millions in payoffs and bonuses and living the dream.

 

  Lewis Hamilton
Posted by: philbell - 09-28-2008 12:21 AM - Replies (2)

Right, nobody seems to be posting at all anymore, yet when you log on there always seems to be several guests logged on. Am going to make a last attempt to get a discussion going!!
Although this is totally out of the things the site usually covers it is an argument that gets people talking. It regards F1 and in particular Lewis Hamilton.
Personally I cannot stand the guy. He is an arrogant tosser who has so much hype that he believes he is the best driver in the world ever. This is far from the truth. There are much better drivers out there, it maybe you or me. Could we ever have the finance to prove ourselves? Unless you have Millions behind you the answer is no. There are hundreds/thousands better that do not have the funds to compete at a higher level. I know of people that have consistently beaten him in lower formula but have dropped out due to lack of funding!! He is far from the best!!

I am from the UK yet I want to see anyone but Hamilton become champion!! I really do not get why people support him at all? What makes things worse is the partisan commentary from ITV and the way they concentrate on the one driver and nobody else!! There are 19 others out there FFS

 

  'Free Elections' in the West
Posted by: philbell - 08-29-2008 12:12 AM - Replies (3)

I have not been following the US elections too closely, they get so much air time as so much money is spent on these elections that I feel that the winners are not there out of merit but out of the show they put on.
It makes a farce out of democracy and free and fair elections. How can they be free and fair when so many millions of Dollars are pumped in to the campaigns?
How are they any free and fairer than any other dictatorship, where the rich control the poor? None of them have had to struggle to survive, none of them understands what it is to live day to day hoping there will be food on the table tomorrow. If they did they would think twice about alienating most of the electorate by wasting fortunes on their own glorification!!
The final choices for the American people are between Obama and McCain, what a choice!! Am not sure about McCain but there something not quite right there, don’t know what it is, but something doesn’t ring true. As for Obama, well the falseness is just so obvious how anyone would vote for him is beyond me!! I can see him being another Bush, only worse, if that is possible!!
At the end of the day though it proves that to be President in the US is pretty much as democratic as being President of Zimbabwe!! There may be a bit more choice but the potential candidates in Zimbabwe can come from any corner where the candidates in the US are about as likely to come from a real background as I am to walk on the moon.
So much for the ‘free world’
All of the dictatorships in the world are not that far removed. They may limit opposition parties and declare free elections, but the US is proving that ‘free elections’ are between 2 of the richest people in their nation. It cannot be contested by just anybody, just anybody with millions of dollars and preferably a bit of celebrity behind them.

 


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